PINKS...Here's Our Chance..... - Page 7

Gary Smith · 03-17-2010, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Floyd Gomez

It is obvious that you are stuck on PINKS. I have offered a better soloution and you keep pushing for Rich and his arm drop crap. I want a gurantee I can run for the money not a pay and wait and see if they decide to pick me or not. You want us to race? Tell your boy Rich do it the way I explained earlier and leave his hands in his pockets. Let us run off the tree on index with a .500 breakout rule. Everybody races to win. Then you will have our attention.

Floyd, talk to Alex Denysenko. Remember, he's already done it and was thanked endlessly with abusive bitching and condescending criticism. But please, by all means put it together if you feel that strong. Really. There's nothing stopping you and I'd support it and won't affect what I'm trying to accomplish. Let me make clear my intent isn't to kill handicap class racing, which I STILL PREFER. Stock and Super Stock are perhaps the oldest forms of drag racing and, along with late great Modified Eliminator, have and will always be my favorites. We've already lost one eliminator to sanctioning body marketing decisions. However the PINKS concept is what's needed to sustain the health of these two remaining eliminators and to protect their future while sanctioning bodies change or shut their doors.

Troy Henderson · 03-17-2010, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary Smith

Hey Buff, the slow cars haven't been ruled out and I'm gonna push that they aren't. Although slow bracket cars are boring as hell to watch, IMO slow stockers aren't. I'll never forget the first time I saw Tom Reider's "Horse Sense" Pinto and still amazed whenever a W/S launches like a low 12 sec car. Slow stockers have character.

Why not combine Stk and S/S then divide the field up by et in groups. We can all adjust weight, timing etc to move the cars around some to fit.

Everett Vassar · 03-17-2010, 11:57 AM

In about a week I"m going to load up my slow, boring, bracket car (no offense taken Gary)
and head for P.O.A. at Crandall. Will take the old motorhome, spend a bunch of money, jump through hoops for the SPEED/PULLIN staff.Probably get pissed at Rich,and wont stand a chance in hell of making the 16.But it will be different.I will see and meet some racers who couldnt get past the first round of a "real" race if theyre lives depended on it.But they really get fired up for PINKS. I"ve been racing a little while now, have a few wins (Brackets) put 2 kids in race cars.Have a son who is a 2009 D4 champ.So sometimes I find myself getting just a little too Elite'st or comfortable with it all,and P.O.A. is just about the right medicine.Just like a good ol Friday night test and tune.---And if I see my car on T.V. for 1/10th of a second will be all worth it.

Gary Smith · 03-17-2010, 12:04 PM

Hey Everett I hope your car is quicker than 12.99 LOL!! By slow I meant 15 & 16 second cars. 12s aren't fast, but certainly not "slow"

. You will certainly have a good time & be treated like royalty for a change. It's more fun than the law should allow!!!!

Jeff Lee · 03-17-2010, 12:08 PM

The negativity displayed here is WHY we may someday have really expensive bracket cars! Look at the BIG picture. Exposure is EVERYTHING. PERIOD.
If your car doesn't get picked, so what. 16 cars will get picked and 16 car will represent S/SS racing. S/SS racing doesn't quite pack the stands in an NHRA / IHRA event. Or have all the spectators left for a few seconds to get a hot dog when the photographer took the pictures?
Remember, in Hollywood, the only bad press is NO PRESS.
Not getting your car picked may be against your ego just as much as getting picked will stroke your ego. Suck it up, sometimes everybody doesn't get to play in the sandbox!

Do you have to register now for something like the 11/20/10 Phoenix race? I don't even have my car half way done but I would pay the $60 today. ****z, this is a bigger incentive than anything I've had in a long time. I could like the chance at $18K. My engine builder / chassis guy might get more motivated as there is a big sticker of his on the side of the car.
So yea, let me know if you could what the registration process is like.
Thanks for taking the initiative!

Floyd Gomez · 03-17-2010, 12:36 PM

How does pinks sustain stock and super stock futures? This is not class racing it is not even close. People will never grasp the concept of class racing if you change the format from the way it is done now. Also everybody on here needs to understand. THIS IS FOR ARM DROP LIVE NOT PINKS. No TV time, No big press, nothing. The fan base is alot smaller and there hasnt been any mention of what the purse would actually be. Talk to Rich and ask him the chance of a show with even 12.5 cars or slower and watch him laugh. He will be the first to tell you that doesn't excite the crowd enough. It is all about the dollar to Speed and Rich just like to NHRA. Of course Rich says put on your Sundays Best and we might get a show but in reality that is a very slim chance. Especially if you run slower cars. Has anyone thought to ask why some of the tracks have dropped the PINK ALL OUT show from their format? Why don't you ask Pat down at No Problem. Maybe he can give some insight. People say this will bring more calss racers to our side however, If you have the chance to build a car that runs 10.0 with nitrous for 4K or a stocker that runs 10.0 for 50K which one will you choose? C'mon man. All this will do is say to the HRA's that our class wants to compete in heads up no rules racing so why keep them around. You are hurting the class instead of helping it. Somebody also said that seeing their car for 1/10 of a second on TV is worth it. Worth what? I would rather have a chance at 10K with no TV than spend entry and expenses to say hey if you dont blink you can see my car on tv and then explain that my car wasnt good enough to get picked to race for the money while some other guys junk was.

Everett Vassar · 03-17-2010, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary Smith

Hey Everett I hope your car is quicker than 12.99 LOL!! By slow I meant 15 & 16 second cars. 12s aren't fast, but certainly not "slow"

. You will certainly have a good time & be treated like royalty for a change. It's more fun than the law should allow!!!!

It go,s about 7.90 in the 1/8 so it will be close.

chris3racing · 03-17-2010, 12:46 PM

Jeff you need to keep up to date on the Firebird web site. They will post a registration time and date. On that date you need to have all of your information and log on to the registration site. Start a few seconds before to start time. You will need, of course, the driver name and address, the car you are entering, your expected et and if you have either a NHRA or IHRA license, not required but they want to know. In most cases the computers around the country will lock up, just hit refresh and continue to do that until you get access to the form to fill out or it posts that all 460 spaces are taken. We have typically had three computers working at the same time to get in.

Good luck. If you make it in, unless you are old enough and remember the old match race days, it will be a racing event you will enjoy and will not forget, until the next one you enter.

Everett Vassar · 03-17-2010, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Floyd Gomez

How does pinks sustain stock and super stock futures? This is not class racing it is not even close. People will never grasp the concept of class racing if you change the format from the way it is done now. Also everybody on here needs to understand. THIS IS FOR ARM DROP LIVE NOT PINKS. No TV time, No big press, nothing. The fan base is alot smaller and there hasnt been any mention of what the purse would actually be. Talk to Rich and ask him the chance of a show with even 12.5 cars or slower and watch him laugh. He will be the first to tell you that doesn't excite the crowd enough. It is all about the dollar to Speed and Rich just like to NHRA. Of course Rich says put on your Sundays Best and we might get a show but in reality that is a very slim chance. Especially if you run slower cars. Has anyone thought to ask why some of the tracks have dropped the PINK ALL OUT show from their format? Why don't you ask Pat down at No Problem. Maybe he can give some insight. People say this will bring more calss racers to our side however, If you have the chance to build a car that runs 10.0 with nitrous for 4K or a stocker that runs 10.0 for 50K which one will you choose? C'mon man. All this will do is say to the HRA's that our class wants to compete in heads up no rules racing so why keep them around. You are hurting the class instead of helping it. Somebody also said that seeing their car for 1/10 of a second on TV is worth it. Worth what? I would rather have a chance at 10K with no TV than spend entry and expenses to say hey if you dont blink you can see my car on tv and then explain that my car wasnt good enough to get picked to race for the money while some other guys junk was.

"Somebody also said that seeing their car for 1/10 of a second on TV is worth it. Worth what? I would rather have a chance at 10K with no TV than spend entry and expenses to say hey if you dont blink you can see my car on tv and then explain that my car wasnt good enough to get picked to race for the money while some other guys junk was."

Of course all of your points are valid Floyd.--I can answer by saying this again--

"So sometimes I find myself getting just a little too Elite'st or comfortable with it all,and P.O.A. is just about the right medicine.Just like a good ol Friday night test and tune"

I also know that you guys have spent a lot more time and money on your legal class cars than I have on my bracket car.And YOU SHOULD ALL HAVE A BIG STAGE PROVIDED BY NHRA.Its ashamed that hasnt happened.

I know you didnt spend that time and money on a legal class car to participate in a baldheaded jerk-off session----But its fun and its different.And you would be fired up to do it when you first started racing before you knew how to race.---And there is the T.V. thing!

Randall Klein · 03-17-2010, 01:22 PM

Geez, what's with all the negativity? It's not either or, its both and....another option for our specialty cars....if its not for you, so what?

Anyway, still waiting for an answer for the proper time to "leave"....in watching some of the shows, I think he points at both cars (staged & ready check I assume), then lifts both arms, and drops....so I'm asking, can you leave on the first downward motion or when his hands reach the bottom of the stroke...what are they "looking for" in the tower to indicate a red light start?

03-17-2010, 11:57 AM	#63
Everett Vassar Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Kennedale,Tx Posts: 227 Likes: 0 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: PINKS...Here's Our Chance..... In about a week I"m going to load up my slow, boring, bracket car (no offense taken Gary) and head for P.O.A. at Crandall. Will take the old motorhome, spend a bunch of money, jump through hoops for the SPEED/PULLIN staff.Probably get pissed at Rich,and wont stand a chance in hell of making the 16.But it will be different.I will see and meet some racers who couldnt get past the first round of a "real" race if theyre lives depended on it.But they really get fired up for PINKS. I"ve been racing a little while now, have a few wins (Brackets) put 2 kids in race cars.Have a son who is a 2009 D4 champ.So sometimes I find myself getting just a little too Elite'st or comfortable with it all,and P.O.A. is just about the right medicine.Just like a good ol Friday night test and tune.---And if I see my car on T.V. for 1/10th of a second will be all worth it.

03-17-2010, 12:04 PM	#64
Gary Smith Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 820 Likes: 9 Liked 132 Times in 30 Posts	Re: PINKS...Here's Our Chance..... Hey Everett I hope your car is quicker than 12.99 LOL!! By slow I meant 15 & 16 second cars. 12s aren't fast, but certainly not "slow" . You will certainly have a good time & be treated like royalty for a change. It's more fun than the law should allow!!!! __________________ Gary Smith "another broke racer spectating"

03-17-2010, 12:08 PM	#65
Jeff Lee VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anthem, Arizona Posts: 2,766 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: PINKS...Here's Our Chance..... The negativity displayed here is WHY we may someday have really expensive bracket cars! Look at the BIG picture. Exposure is EVERYTHING. PERIOD. If your car doesn't get picked, so what. 16 cars will get picked and 16 car will represent S/SS racing. S/SS racing doesn't quite pack the stands in an NHRA / IHRA event. Or have all the spectators left for a few seconds to get a hot dog when the photographer took the pictures? Remember, in Hollywood, the only bad press is NO PRESS. Not getting your car picked may be against your ego just as much as getting picked will stroke your ego. Suck it up, sometimes everybody doesn't get to play in the sandbox! Do you have to register now for something like the 11/20/10 Phoenix race? I don't even have my car half way done but I would pay the $60 today. ****z, this is a bigger incentive than anything I've had in a long time. I could like the chance at $18K. My engine builder / chassis guy might get more motivated as there is a big sticker of his on the side of the car. So yea, let me know if you could what the registration process is like. Thanks for taking the initiative! __________________ Jeff Lee 7494 D/S '70 AMX

03-17-2010, 12:36 PM	#66
Floyd Gomez Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: South Carolina Posts: 275 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: PINKS...Here's Our Chance..... How does pinks sustain stock and super stock futures? This is not class racing it is not even close. People will never grasp the concept of class racing if you change the format from the way it is done now. Also everybody on here needs to understand. THIS IS FOR ARM DROP LIVE NOT PINKS. No TV time, No big press, nothing. The fan base is alot smaller and there hasnt been any mention of what the purse would actually be. Talk to Rich and ask him the chance of a show with even 12.5 cars or slower and watch him laugh. He will be the first to tell you that doesn't excite the crowd enough. It is all about the dollar to Speed and Rich just like to NHRA. Of course Rich says put on your Sundays Best and we might get a show but in reality that is a very slim chance. Especially if you run slower cars. Has anyone thought to ask why some of the tracks have dropped the PINK ALL OUT show from their format? Why don't you ask Pat down at No Problem. Maybe he can give some insight. People say this will bring more calss racers to our side however, If you have the chance to build a car that runs 10.0 with nitrous for 4K or a stocker that runs 10.0 for 50K which one will you choose? C'mon man. All this will do is say to the HRA's that our class wants to compete in heads up no rules racing so why keep them around. You are hurting the class instead of helping it. Somebody also said that seeing their car for 1/10 of a second on TV is worth it. Worth what? I would rather have a chance at 10K with no TV than spend entry and expenses to say hey if you dont blink you can see my car on tv and then explain that my car wasnt good enough to get picked to race for the money while some other guys junk was.

03-17-2010, 12:46 PM	#68
chris3racing Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 528 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: PINKS...Here's Our Chance..... Jeff you need to keep up to date on the Firebird web site. They will post a registration time and date. On that date you need to have all of your information and log on to the registration site. Start a few seconds before to start time. You will need, of course, the driver name and address, the car you are entering, your expected et and if you have either a NHRA or IHRA license, not required but they want to know. In most cases the computers around the country will lock up, just hit refresh and continue to do that until you get access to the form to fill out or it posts that all 460 spaces are taken. We have typically had three computers working at the same time to get in. Good luck. If you make it in, unless you are old enough and remember the old match race days, it will be a racing event you will enjoy and will not forget, until the next one you enter.

03-17-2010, 01:22 PM	#70
Randall Klein Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Lincoln, Nebraska Posts: 785 Likes: 45 Liked 316 Times in 67 Posts	Re: PINKS...Here's Our Chance..... Geez, what's with all the negativity? It's not either or, its both and....another option for our specialty cars....if its not for you, so what? Anyway, still waiting for an answer for the proper time to "leave"....in watching some of the shows, I think he points at both cars (staged & ready check I assume), then lifts both arms, and drops....so I'm asking, can you leave on the first downward motion or when his hands reach the bottom of the stroke...what are they "looking for" in the tower to indicate a red light start?