PINKS...Here's Our Chance.....

[Travis Miller]

Here is how S/S would be in the closest 16 for a Pinks race using Indy 2009 qualifying. There were 175 S/S cars ranging from the quickest of 8.237 down to a 13.175. The first number is the actual qualified position at Indy.

163 SS/DA Mike Bogina 70 Barracuda 9.607
26 GT/DA Stacy Smith 93 Daytona 9.611
84 GT/CA Jerry Emmons 05 Cavalier 9.611
88 GT/CA Tom Randall 02 Cavalier 9.616
127 GT/DA Kyle Jeltema 88 Thunderbird 9.625
128 SS/EA Ryan Haag 67 Camaro 9.629
109 GT/CA Jim Boburka 05 Cavalier 9.645
72 SS/FA Dan Jacobs 67 Chevy II 9.646
122 GT/CA Bob Bales 98 Grand Am 9.667
124 GT/CA Chris Chaney 02 Cavalier 9.670
29 GT/TA Tom Nolan 02 S-10 9.671
126 GT/CA Bobby Rachid 82 Firebird 9.674
95 SS/FA Todd Frantz 67 Chevy II 9.680
32 SS/BX Joe Buchanan 04 Mustang 9.682
35 SS/GA Bret Voges 67 Nova 9.686
37 SS/GA Andy Fogle 67 Camaro 9.688

This spread for S/S would be .081 from quickest to slowest. Again this would make a good show at a hands drop race.

Travis

(Disclaimer: Opinions expressed and race data editing by me on this forum are exactly that, my opinions and race data editing.)

[Randall Klein]

Not paying a lot of attention, but just musing, based off Travis' groupings, if it was up to me I would pair 1 vs 2, 3 vs 4, etc, although .08 spread isn't much....just a thought

Looks like fun to me....heck, 4 time trials among fellow class racers with a good "house" is more ego-trip than most NHRA events

Anyone understand the arm drop? Do you go (or when are you supposed to) on first muscle twitch, or when the arm comes all the way down? or..... Who decides on "red light"?

[Ed Wright]

I don't know about most of you guys, but I don't often see 1/2 second difference in reaction times at our divsional races. You can't make up 1/2 second on the tree against the better guys. Like a SS/JA car having to run a SS/IA car heads up?
I (SS/JA) don't want to have to race Gary Emmons (SS/IA) heads up.
Kinda hate to race him anyway.

3/10 ain't gonna be made up on the starting line against guys around here.
1/10 would be a stretch.

[Mike Carr]

I almost never agree with Fred Johnston, but he's right. 500 cars show up, and 16 have a chance at anything (32 sometimes, if they have a deal where you race your way in). Imagine if at Indy, 180 Stockers show up, and right before first round, NHRA calls everyone to a drivers meeting and announces "We're taking 16 random cars and running them off for the title, the rest of you, thanks for coming, see you next year/race". It would be absolute chaos.

Pinks All Out, most of the time, is fairly entertaining to watch on TV. And any exposure we get, as Class Racers, can only be a good thing. I just can't bring myself to support anything involving them, after an assinine statement on their website a few years ago. For the hell of it, I went to their registration page (I believe it was for the Norwalk event). The statement read, "12.99 second and quicker door cars only. If it's slower than 13 seconds, we don't want it". Quote. So, in a normal PAO race, every Stocker from Q to W is out (except for maybe a very few, fast Q cars). All the FWD Stockers (except for 1-2 A cars, like Blossom), as well as SS/GS. So, they can move on without me, since my slow POS isn't good enough for them.

[W J]

Originally Posted by Randall Klein

Not paying a lot of attention, but just musing, based off Travis' groupings, if it was up to me I would pair 1 vs 2, 3 vs 4, etc, although .08 spread isn't much....just a thought

Looks like fun to me....heck, 4 time trials among fellow class racers with a good "house" is more ego-trip than most NHRA events

Anyone understand the arm drop? Do you go (or when are you supposed to) on first muscle twitch, or when the arm comes all the way down? or..... Who decides on "red light"?

That's the only problem w/arm-drop racing for big money, IMO, Randall....someone's always saying: "Yes, you did!" or "No I didn't!".....but, I believe people working in the tower "call" the red light starts on Pinks... WJ

[Gary Smith]

ttt

[B Aceves]

Originally Posted by W J

That's the only problem w/arm-drop racing for big money, IMO, Randall....someone's always saying: "Yes, you did!" or "No I didn't!".....but, I believe people working in the tower "call" the red light starts on Pinks... WJ

If there is a question as to who jumped the arm drop they do a instant slow motion replay and they can determine who jumped.

[Floyd Gomez]

Originally Posted by Gary Smith

Floyd who's gonna run tech? What dates? The PINKS deal still includes standard tech ....visual checks, numbers verification, engine parts, weight minimums, fuel, etc.

If Bruton's willing to put on such a deal, it will improve our exposure. But the focus is drawing new fans. How are they proposing to do it? Rich already has a large fan following, which is what we need.

It is obvious that you are stuck on PINKS. I have offered a better soloution and you keep pushing for Rich and his arm drop crap. I want a gurantee I can run for the money not a pay and wait and see if they decide to pick me or not. You want us to race? Tell your boy Rich do it the way I explained earlier and leave his hands in his pockets. Let us run off the tree on index with a .500 breakout rule. Everybody races to win. Then you will have our attention.

[Gary Smith]

Hey Buff, the slow cars haven't been ruled out and I'm gonna push that they aren't. Although slow bracket cars are boring as hell to watch, IMO slow stockers aren't. I'll never forget the first time I saw Tom Reider's "Horse Sense" Pinto and still amazed whenever a W/S launches like a low 12 sec car. Slow stockers have character.

[W J]

"Slow stockers have character"........very cool statement. WJ