Holloween 2010 - The End of Pontiac

Bobby DiDomenico · 11-02-2010, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by blkjack

I guess the Regal would work in PS

Isn't that an Opel with Buick emblems?

david ring · 11-02-2010, 12:11 PM

GM, Ford, and Chrysler all made the same mistake-they stopped building cars that young people without a lot of money found interesting and would be their first cars (remember when we were in our late teens and Ford, GM, and Chrysler made lots of these cars-we are still racing them). So kids turned to Honda and Toyota for these cars-you call them riceburners, the kids call them tuner cars. So finally Ford has come out with the Fiesta, Chevy the Cruze, and Chrysler will have a version of the Fiat 500. All of these cars have gotten good reviews and I expect my next car will be one of them when it comes time to replace my Civic (I own a comp car-i can't afford a Challenger or Camaro or Mustang). If the American brands want to survive, they need to start building cars that kids can afford to buy and want to buy in order to develop brand loyalty, although I'm not sure that will help since kids don't seem to have and loyalty to bands, much less brands-they do seem to love anything from Apple though, but then that could be because Apple tends to build good products.

BlueOval Ralph · 11-03-2010, 07:52 AM

GM, Ford, and Chrysler all made the same mistake!
You are right on about the Big 3 giving up on the small car market for the trucks & suvs that made them more money. They gambled and lost the small market it will be a long time if evere before they get it back. Once the young kids are in a Honda it will be very hard to get them out.

GM, Ford, and Chrysler all made the same mistake-they
stopped building cars that young people without a lot of money found interesting and would be their first cars (remember when we were in our late teens and Ford, GM, and Chrysler made lots of these cars-we are still racing them). So kids turned to Honda and Toyota for these cars-you call them riceburners, the kids call them tuner cars. So finally Ford has come out with the Fiesta, Chevy the Cruze, and Chrysler will have a version of the Fiat 500. All of these cars have gotten good reviews and I expect my next car will be one of them when it comes time to replace my Civic (I own a comp car-i can't afford a Challenger or Camaro or Mustang). If the American brands want to survive, they need to start building cars that kids can afford to buy and want to buy in order to develop brand loyalty, although I'm not sure that will help since kids don't seem to have and loyalty to bands, much less brands-they do seem to love anything from Apple though, but then that could be because Apple tends to build good products.[/QUOTE]

FrankChastain · 11-03-2010, 07:56 AM

Wonder when GM will have one pickup and which will win GMC or Chevy? FrankChastain

SCOTT SST2871 · 11-03-2010, 08:17 AM

Im sitting here at my desk at the pontiac dealership that ive worked at for nearly 20 years with pictures of my pontiac race car hanging on the wall behind me watching guys take down the pontiac logos on the front of our buildings and now i have to answer my phone saying buick/gmc without mention of pontiac!!!
I came to work here and took a healthy cut in pay in 1991 because i loved my pontiacs,so whos having a bad day now!!
Scott fifield

Bobby DiDomenico · 11-03-2010, 03:47 PM

Maybe this line explains it, "the Beach Boys singing about their GTO"? I bet Ronnie is really pissed...

"The sound of the Beach Boys singing about their GTO faded a long time ago, but today Pontiac ends 84 years of automotive history and signals the end of an era. Once one of the world’s great automotive names, Pontiac fell out of favor with consumers. However, those who remember never fell out of love with the memory of Pontiac."

http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.ac...81474978657314

Mopar Steve · 11-02-2010, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobby DiDomenico

Isn't that an Opel with Buick emblems?

No different than a Holden with Pontiac emblems.

Bart Kilraine · 11-02-2010, 02:31 PM

Buick sells 6 X more cars in China then the U.S.,so it ain't hard to believe China could take over Goverment Motors Buick Div. for some debt !

blkjack · 11-03-2010, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mopar Steve

No different than a Holden with Pontiac emblems.

This was really supposed to be the 2011 Saturn Aura.....why not an outcry from all you Saturn racers out there?!!!!

CycloneFE · 11-03-2010, 07:04 PM

Jack, I DO understand and feel your pain. My youngest cousin, which I taught him his first words, Ford, Chevy, Camaro, Mustang, forsake d us all for Olds(442) and he was the first in our family. My Father with a 1965 Pontiac Tempest(purchased new) was the next. I will follow with my Cyclone when Mercury shuts the doors.

Bad part is I am building a shop for my Merc and Dad just gave me his Poncho. Now I will have 2 obsolete cars in there.

Steve

11-02-2010, 12:11 PM	#2
david ring Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Oneonta.,NY Posts: 889 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Holloween 2010 - The End of Pontiac GM, Ford, and Chrysler all made the same mistake-they stopped building cars that young people without a lot of money found interesting and would be their first cars (remember when we were in our late teens and Ford, GM, and Chrysler made lots of these cars-we are still racing them). So kids turned to Honda and Toyota for these cars-you call them riceburners, the kids call them tuner cars. So finally Ford has come out with the Fiesta, Chevy the Cruze, and Chrysler will have a version of the Fiat 500. All of these cars have gotten good reviews and I expect my next car will be one of them when it comes time to replace my Civic (I own a comp car-i can't afford a Challenger or Camaro or Mustang). If the American brands want to survive, they need to start building cars that kids can afford to buy and want to buy in order to develop brand loyalty, although I'm not sure that will help since kids don't seem to have and loyalty to bands, much less brands-they do seem to love anything from Apple though, but then that could be because Apple tends to build good products.

11-03-2010, 07:52 AM	#3
BlueOval Ralph Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 852 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Holloween 2010 - The End of Pontiac GM, Ford, and Chrysler all made the same mistake! You are right on about the Big 3 giving up on the small car market for the trucks & suvs that made them more money. They gambled and lost the small market it will be a long time if evere before they get it back. Once the young kids are in a Honda it will be very hard to get them out. GM, Ford, and Chrysler all made the same mistake-they stopped building cars that young people without a lot of money found interesting and would be their first cars (remember when we were in our late teens and Ford, GM, and Chrysler made lots of these cars-we are still racing them). So kids turned to Honda and Toyota for these cars-you call them riceburners, the kids call them tuner cars. So finally Ford has come out with the Fiesta, Chevy the Cruze, and Chrysler will have a version of the Fiat 500. All of these cars have gotten good reviews and I expect my next car will be one of them when it comes time to replace my Civic (I own a comp car-i can't afford a Challenger or Camaro or Mustang). If the American brands want to survive, they need to start building cars that kids can afford to buy and want to buy in order to develop brand loyalty, although I'm not sure that will help since kids don't seem to have and loyalty to bands, much less brands-they do seem to love anything from Apple though, but then that could be because Apple tends to build good products.[/QUOTE]

11-03-2010, 07:56 AM	#4
FrankChastain Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Trussville, Alabama-Originally from Vidalia,GA Posts: 642 Likes: 9 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Holloween 2010 - The End of Pontiac Wonder when GM will have one pickup and which will win GMC or Chevy? FrankChastain

11-03-2010, 08:17 AM	#5
SCOTT SST2871 Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: PORT ST JOHN FLORIDA Posts: 226 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Holloween 2010 - The End of Pontiac Im sitting here at my desk at the pontiac dealership that ive worked at for nearly 20 years with pictures of my pontiac race car hanging on the wall behind me watching guys take down the pontiac logos on the front of our buildings and now i have to answer my phone saying buick/gmc without mention of pontiac!!! I came to work here and took a healthy cut in pay in 1991 because i loved my pontiacs,so whos having a bad day now!! Scott fifield

11-03-2010, 03:47 PM	#6
Bobby DiDomenico Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 924 Likes: 103 Liked 101 Times in 52 Posts	Re: Holloween 2010 - The End of Pontiac Maybe this line explains it, "the Beach Boys singing about their GTO"? I bet Ronnie is really pissed... "The sound of the Beach Boys singing about their GTO faded a long time ago, but today Pontiac ends 84 years of automotive history and signals the end of an era. Once one of the world’s great automotive names, Pontiac fell out of favor with consumers. However, those who remember never fell out of love with the memory of Pontiac." http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.ac...81474978657314

11-02-2010, 02:31 PM	#8
Bart Kilraine Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Carrolltown,PA Posts: 118 Likes: 0 Liked 11 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Holloween 2010 - The End of Pontiac Buick sells 6 X more cars in China then the U.S.,so it ain't hard to believe China could take over Goverment Motors Buick Div. for some debt !

11-03-2010, 07:04 PM	#10
CycloneFE Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Decatur Illinois Posts: 634 Likes: 0 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Holloween 2010 - The End of Pontiac Jack, I DO understand and feel your pain. My youngest cousin, which I taught him his first words, Ford, Chevy, Camaro, Mustang, forsake d us all for Olds(442) and he was the first in our family. My Father with a 1965 Pontiac Tempest(purchased new) was the next. I will follow with my Cyclone when Mercury shuts the doors. Bad part is I am building a shop for my Merc and Dad just gave me his Poncho. Now I will have 2 obsolete cars in there. Steve