Indy...No Horsepower Factoring

[Kevin McKenna]

Wow. Lots of conspiracy theories. Nary a shred of evidence. Any chance this was done simply because enough racers, manufacturers, and perhaps even a few hard core fans asked for it?

Personally, I think this has the makings of the best class race in a decade. I'd hate to think anyone is staying home just because they feel the need to protect their combination.

But oh, please make Sept. 1-2 a pair of cool crisp fall days in Indy.

[Mike Keener]

My belief is that the "Flat Out" no AHFS US Nationals that is being offered by NHRA is "not designed to fool competitors" in to showing their hand in order to gather the necessary information that they feel they need to level the playing field once and for all.

In my opinion if that was NHRA's motive they could have secretly used the ammunition gathered over past National Open events where most competitors raced with no fear what so ever of the AHFS and It could have been corrected long ago. Seems to me there is not much chance they haven't been over the results from those events with a fine tooth comb and Nitro's stats lay all the cards right on the table for all to see.

My believe is that NHRA is reacting to the many complaints from racers who are totally unhappy with the fact that the Factory Shootout cars are being allowed "special privileges" by being exempt from the AHFS and therefore dominating the top half of the qualifying sheet.

Just my .02

[SStockDart]

I am not supporting this senerio, but stop and think about it. Indy is the only race where we qualify and slower ones (based on current HP ratings), do not get to race. For all other races, everyone races. The only time AHFS comes into play is a "heads up" race. All other runs are "bracket races".

A simply change by NHRA would eliminate all of the headaches for NHRA trying to keep up with hundreds, if not thousands of combinations and the bit--ing from us racers.

- Run everyone that is entered at all races, including Indy
- Eliminate "heads up" races...every race, you dial your time.

No reason to have AHFS. Be careful what you wish for.

[Jeff Niceswanger]

Originally Posted by SStockDart

I am not supporting this senerio, but stop and think about it. Indy is the only race where we qualify and slower ones (based on current HP ratings), do not get to race. For all other races, everyone races. The only time AHFS comes into play is a "heads up" race. All other runs are "bracket races".

A simply change by NHRA would eliminate all of the headaches for NHRA trying to keep up with hundreds, if not thousands of combinations and the bit--ing from us racers.

- Run everyone that is entered at all races, including Indy
- Eliminate "heads up" races...every race, you dial your time.

No reason to have AHFS. Be careful what you wish for.

If they did that, I'd quit. And so would everybody else that are class racers at heart ... If I want to bracket race every time I run a similarly equipped competitor, I would do exactly that ( bracket race ) at my own home track . I could stay in the Columbus Ohio area and sleep in my own bed every night ...

[rk3800]

Well put Jeff, some of these guys just don't understand what class racing is
all about. See you at Bowling Green.

[ALMACK]

Originally Posted by Mike Keener

My belief is that the "Flat Out" no AHFS US Nationals that is being offered by NHRA is "not designed to fool competitors" in to showing their hand in order to gather the necessary information that they feel they need to level the playing field once and for all.

In my opinion if that was NHRA's motive they could have secretly used the ammunition gathered over past National Open events where most competitors raced with no fear what so ever of the AHFS and It could have been corrected long ago. Seems to me there is not much chance they haven't been over the results from those events with a fine tooth comb and Nitro's stats lay all the cards right on the table for all to see.

My believe is that NHRA is reacting to the many complaints from racers who are totally unhappy with the fact that the Factory Shootout cars are being allowed "special privileges" by being exempt from the AHFS and therefore dominating the top half of the qualifying sheet.

Just my .02

^^ I totally agree on everything said in this post, especially what is highlighted in bold

[Carguy49]

Alan, I also agree with what Mike said in his post. If NHRA wanted to make changes the info is out there already.

For Indy this year just use the old adage - "Run what you brung and hope you brung enough."

[farmco r/sa]

Originally Posted by Kevin McKenna

Wow. Lots of conspiracy theories. Nary a shred of evidence. Any chance this was done simply because enough racers, manufacturers, and perhaps even a few hard core fans asked for it?

Personally, I think this has the makings of the best class race in a decade. I'd hate to think anyone is staying home just because they feel the need to protect their combination.

But oh, please make Sept. 1-2 a pair of cool crisp fall days in Indy.

Hoping Billy Nees or one or more of the other obscure combo guys will get into there vast collection that I can only invision
and build an awesome dime rocket W/Stocker or something for a cool race with a factory stocker ! Get out your popcorn!

[Bernie Cunningham]

Thanks Jeff N, I believe that point has been clarified a million times on here already.

Mr. Hansen does't a have a gun in this fight but he continually expresses his opinions that, frankly, don't count, -----YET.

[SStockDart]

Originally Posted by Bernie Cunningham

Thanks Jeff N, I believe that point has been clarified a million times on here already.

Mr. Hansen does't a have a gun in this fight but he continually expresses his opinions that, frankly, don't count, -----YET.

Bernie, if you mean I don't have a gun in this fight because I am not fast enough to get horsepower, you are correct.(same as you) If you mean I don't have a gun in this fight because I don't have the race cars indicated in my signature...you are incorrect...If you mean I don't have a gun in this fight because I haven't raced in 2 years.....I haven't. ...I had a stroke....hope to be cleared to race this fall. And, I have raced the US Nationals, which this post is about.

If you reread my post, very clearly, I stated that I do not support this senerio. But I believe we, as class racers, need to be aware how easy NHRA could change things. Don't shoot the messenger.
PS...I agree with my friend, Jeff

G Day