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Old 08-15-2021, 07:28 PM   #1
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Personally, I think the modern "factory" PURPOSE BUILT race cars have made enough of a mockery of Stock Eliminator rules already, without kicking the door wide open to even more liberal allowances of non OE components.
Well better take me off your Christmas card list as many of the cars i've raced will fall into that category - like my '57 Fuel Injected Bel Air in the sixties or my '60 Sedan Delivery 348/320 hp with Hydra-matic transmission in the seventies or better yet my Cutlass factory racer in the eighties - then it really gets good in the 90's when I started with the Firebirds and Camaros with the 350/275 LT1's and later L S series engines and finally lets look at my 04 GTO 350/340 HP ...........And then came the COPO'S --don't you get it - there will always be the next great thing -- it's progress - get used to it !!!!!!!
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Old 08-15-2021, 08:57 PM   #2
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Well better take me off your Christmas card list as many of the cars i've raced will fall into that category - like my '57 Fuel Injected Bel Air in the sixties or my '60 Sedan Delivery 348/320 hp with Hydra-matic transmission in the seventies or better yet my Cutlass factory racer in the eighties - then it really gets good in the 90's when I started with the Firebirds and Camaros with the 350/275 LT1's and later L S series engines and finally lets look at my 04 GTO 350/340 HP ...........And then came the COPO'S --don't you get it - there will always be the next great thing -- it's progress - get used to it !!!!!!!
All of the vehicles you mentioned were available as street cars with VIN numbers, except for the COPO...
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Old 08-16-2021, 09:58 AM   #3
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All of the vehicles you mentioned were available as street cars with VIN numbers, except for the COPO...
I also think Jack went wrong in the last sentence,FS Cars Should be in SS based on what they are and the performance they have!

Sorry this was about transmissions....
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Old 08-16-2021, 12:35 AM   #4
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Well better take me off your Christmas card list as many of the cars i've raced will fall into that category - like my '57 Fuel Injected Bel Air in the sixties or my '60 Sedan Delivery 348/320 hp with Hydra-matic transmission in the seventies or better yet my Cutlass factory racer in the eighties - then it really gets good in the 90's when I started with the Firebirds and Camaros with the 350/275 LT1's and later L S series engines and finally lets look at my 04 GTO 350/340 HP ...........And then came the COPO'S --don't you get it - there will always be the next great thing -- it's progress - get used to it !!!!!!!
So in your mind "Progress" means allowing engines, transmissions, and rear ends that were never available in a application fits the spirit of a "STOCK" class , against other cars that compete using the same factory installed components as millions of cars that anybody could drive off the showroom floor. AND allow engines with much more performance potential, and at a lower HP ratings, than the engines that similar cars that are actually sold to the public with ? THAT is your idea of "progress" in Stock Eliminator?
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Old 08-16-2021, 08:43 AM   #5
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So in your mind "Progress" means allowing engines, transmissions, and rear ends that were never available in a application fits the spirit of a "STOCK" class , against other cars that compete using the same factory installed components as millions of cars that anybody could drive off the showroom floor. AND allow engines with much more performance potential, and at a lower HP ratings, than the engines that similar cars that are actually sold to the public with ? THAT is your idea of "progress" in Stock Eliminator?
Yes, it is progress as during the entire run of Stock eliminator has it received as much ink and TV since 2008 when they started building these factory cars .That plus at least 95% of the time they get to race each other heads up not traditional Stock cars .When a new car races a traditional car its a bracket race - get a light and run the number .You may not be aware that when one of the newer cars run as say A/SA even B/SA they use normal production engines not the same ones that are fitted into Factory Stock classes .
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