How crazy would it be.....

[Cglrcng]

This was an imaginary thread but how crazy would it be if they allowed me to just race my car at the actual advertised (I have the original 1984 Dodge Daytona Dealer Sales Brochure listing the real life specs of all 3 1984 Editions), at the actual 99HP/2,426 lbs., plus 170 driver or total Min. Wt. of 2,596, instead of 2,795 lbs currently. I would attempt DF/S again. (Somebody lied on actual shipping weights originally by a little to get a little on each car shipped monetarily, and hp output was assigned on engine family (that does not really compare in reality), instead of actual indiv. combo historical real performance
numbers. (They corrected it once on the HP side, then put 6.5 percent back on before I returned). Still chasing my tail, but I will get there in spite of bad math and hurdles. (6 total runs historically in 1995, and in 2023 tell me the possibility exists). But, I have never raced it at either its true advertised weight or horsepower, or both.

Now that would be crazy good.

[El Duderino]

Originally Posted by Cglrcng

This was an imaginary thread but how crazy would it be if they allowed me to just race my car at the actual advertised (I have the original 1984 Dodge Daytona Dealer Sales Brochure listing the real life specs of all 3 1984 Editions), at the actual 99HP/2,426 lbs., plus 170 driver or total Min. Wt. of 2,596, instead of 2,795 lbs currently. I would attempt DF/S again. (Somebody lied on actual shipping weights originally by a little to get a little on each car shipped monetarily, and hp output was assigned on engine family (that does not really compare in reality), instead of actual indiv. combo historical real performance
numbers. (They corrected it once on the HP side, then put 6.5 percent back on before I returned). Still chasing my tail, but I will get there in spite of bad math and hurdles. (6 total runs historically in 1995, and in 2023 tell me the possibility exists). But, I have never raced it at either its true advertised weight or horsepower, or both.

Now that would be crazy good.

Wow. Another Whoa As Me novel by Cglrcng. We get it. You are the most over factored, over looked, unappreciated racer of all time. And apparently, the only combo that has a HP rating above the advertised rating. Sounds like the only solution is to deprive NHRA and the fans of the Sleds appeal and maybe race a format more suitable to you. ie; .Bracket Racing

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by JIM MARSHALL

If everyone was forced to run their natural class more heads up would result.

Hi Jim! I'd be OK with that! I don't think that you'll find much support for it though. It would also send Racers scurrying back to the Classification guide to find the many combos and classes that time has forgotten.

[1700camaro]

Originally Posted by Cglrcng

This was an imaginary thread but how crazy would it be if they allowed me to just race my car at the actual advertised (I have the original 1984 Dodge Daytona Dealer Sales Brochure listing the real life specs of all 3 1984 Editions), at the actual 99HP/2,426 lbs., plus 170 driver or total Min. Wt. of 2,596, instead of 2,795 lbs currently. I would attempt DF/S again. (Somebody lied on actual shipping weights originally by a little to get a little on each car shipped monetarily, and hp output was assigned on engine family (that does not really compare in reality), instead of actual indiv. combo historical real performance
numbers. (They corrected it once on the HP side, then put 6.5 percent back on before I returned). Still chasing my tail, but I will get there in spite of bad math and hurdles. (6 total runs historically in 1995, and in 2023 tell me the possibility exists). But, I have never raced it at either its true advertised weight or horsepower, or both.

Now that would be crazy good.

Originally Posted by El Duderino

Wow. Another Whoa As Me novel by Cglrcng. We get it. You are the most over factored, over looked, unappreciated racer of all time. And apparently, the only combo that has a HP rating above the advertised rating. Sounds like the only solution is to deprive NHRA and the fans of the Sleds appeal and maybe race a format more suitable to you. ie; .Bracket Racing

So, you need to be an A.S.S.H0LE about it!

1700/781L

[El Duderino]

Originally Posted by 1700camaro

So, you need to be an A.S.S.H0LE about it!

1700/781L

It's called Tough Love

[Don Kennedy]

This discussion is almost just like Racers have had since the 60, 70s, '80s, and on and on. The present system implemented by NHRA with a huge amount of seasoned Racing Veterans' input is the best system so far, and I am sure this discussion will be had 15 years from now lol

[JP1738]

Cglrcng, Have you tried to get the HP back by asking NHRA? I thought there was a formal way to get HP back if you believe your car is over-factored.

[Cglrcng]

Originally Posted by El Duderino

It's called Tough Love

No 1700, he was right I was whining llke a little girl...no offense to little girls. Lol.

Yes on the request process, no not under the engine family rule, once HP is applied under the AHFS, even if not the specific car/engine combo it says it cannot be reduced. Working on it, will just flog to make it faster.

We now have 2 ways to get the ignition completed w/the Holley EFI upgrade so 1 of them should work. Will try both right after this week of Bracket racing. Lol.

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Cglrcng

Yes on the request process, no not under the engine family rule, once HP is applied under the AHFS, even if not the specific car/engine combo it says it cannot be reduced.

When did the TBI 2.2 or the carbureted 2.2 ever get a HP hit?
The NHRA giving a combo an arbitrary factor over it's "base" rating isn't the same as an AHFS hit.

[Cglrcng]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

When did the TBI 2.2 or the carbureted 2.2 ever get a HP hit?
The NHRA giving a combo an arbitrary factor over it's "base" rating isn't the same as an AHFS hit.

June 2003, and says it is a moot point when asked why or who. All I wanted is evideence as to why.