PINKS...Here's Our Chance.....

[Gary Smith]

YEEEESSS!!!! We have a winner!!!! Mr. Miller you never disappoint to come through!!!

[treessavoy]

Originally Posted by fredjohnston

Like I said, I just don't get it. When you go to race, don't you want to know that you have a chance to race for the money and not have to be selected to compete?

What!!!

If you're a class racer do you finish in the money every time you go to a race? If so you must be very good.

If you qualify and go out in the first round.....how much do you get? If you win the Stock Eliminator.....how much do you win, a thousand, two? Certainly not $18,000.00 tools and money combined.

JimR

[treessavoy]

Originally Posted by Floyd Gomez

Just got off the phone with a great friend of mine that worked for Bruton Smith for several years. Here is the deal. Bring him 500 stock/superstock cars. 60 buck entry 2 day event. All cars run class index with a .500 max breakout. Must adhere to NHRA rules and class. Provide proof of class and follow NHRA tech guidelines. 10K winner takes all. Says he will do this every weekend the track is available. 2 time trials and we start racing and EVERYBODY gets a chance at the prize.

I like this idea but with the economy as it is I don't believe there are 500 S&SS cars running in both HRA's combined.

JimR

[Gary Smith]

I'd beg to see Ford and/or Mopar step up for support, maybe drawings for CJ or DP running gear or "build your own" packages.

[Travis Miller]

Originally Posted by treessavoy

I like this idea but with the economy as it is I don't believe there are 500 S&SS cars running in both HRA's combined.

JimR

While I cannot speak for the other HRA, I can say that on NHRA.com, the points standings for 2009 shows 830 racers participated in S/S while 1093 earned points in Stock. I'd say that's not too bad for the weak economy we are suffering through. That may also be the reason that Stock and S/S remain as viable eliminators despite all the naysayer talk out there.

Travis

(Disclaimer: Opinions and uplifting data expressed by me on this forum are exactly that, my opinions and ray of hope for the future.)

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Travis Miller

While I cannot speak for the other HRA, I can say that on NHRA.com, the points standings for 2009 shows 830 racers participated in S/S while 1093 earned points in Stock. I'd say that's not too bad for the weak economy we are suffering through. That may also be the reason that Stock and S/S remain as viable eliminators despite all the naysayer talk out there.

Travis

(Disclaimer: Opinions and uplifting data expressed by me on this forum are exactly that, my opinions and ray of hope for the future.)

Those figures are spread around 7 divisions.Most cars I would say are packed into divisions 1 and 3 more or less.It would be interesting to see the bitching and moaning on the internet after a race with that format with 500 S/SS cars attending based on the posts
that have turned up on Classracer.Look at all the moaning directed at Alex and the race in general after the Class Nationals.

[fredjohnston]

Originally Posted by treessavoy

What!!!

If you're a class racer do you finish in the money every time you go to a race? If so you must be very good.

If you qualify and go out in the first round.....how much do you get? If you win the Stock Eliminator.....how much do you win, a thousand, two? Certainly not $18,000.00 tools and money combined.

JimR

Pay attention to what I wrote, Mr. Tree. Would you go to a race such as "Pinks" knowing that you do not have a chance to compete for the money? Remember, you must be one of the choosen few to participate in the actual money race at Pinks. NOT ME. When you got to a "normal" race, you compete and don't have to be choosen. And yes, if you have the right decals, you can win $13,500 - $15,000 for a national event win. Most racers have a bunch of tools already, who needs a tool box??? I just don't get the appeal of PINKS, nor racing off some tool that drops his arms.

[Gary Smith]

Fred you're right, you don't get it. Did you see Travis' post? He showed a perfect example how a field would be selected using a sheet from Indy. Although not everyone was the fastest in class, they qualify using the typical PINKS format. The gamble is if & how much you want to turn up the wick in terms of "tune-up". You may elect a bracket tune, or set the car on kill (class/record setup). The whole idea is to run the car as hard as you can. Sandbagging is closely monitored and any drastic variation on your time card will get you tossed. Because so many clases and combinations overlap in performance there's no guarantee any one class or racer has an advantage. Simple.

Here's how they make it work: 1) No posted time sheets 2) scoreboards are turned off, and 3) Entry list is kept concealed, preventing anyone from "position guessing" their way in. I didn't realize this until after I entered which makes perfect sense.

Regarding the sticker money...that was one reason I built my car, only to see most of it vanish. That's based on my observation of the growing number in bare bodied S & SS cars during Full Throttle events the last couple years, unless they can still collect.

[fredjohnston]

Originally Posted by Gary Smith

Fred you're right, you don't get it. Did you see Travis' post? He showed a perfect example how a field would be selected using a sheet from Indy. Although not everyone was the fastest in class, they qualify using the typical PINKS format. The gamble is if & how much you want to turn up the wick in terms of "tune-up". You may elect a bracket tune, or set the car on kill (class/record setup). The whole idea is to run the car as hard as you can. Sandbagging is closely monitored and any drastic variation on your time card will get you tossed. Because so many clases and combinations overlap in performance there's no guarantee any one class or racer has an advantage. Simple.

Here's how they make it work: 1) No posted time sheets 2) scoreboards are turned off, and 3) Entry list is kept concealed, preventing anyone from "position guessing" their way in. I didn't realize this until after I entered which makes perfect sense.

I get it just fine, that's why you will never see me at one of the Pink races. Like I keep saying, you have to be "selected" to race for the money and I like knowing when I leave my driveway that I am going to be racing for the money. And the No posted time sheets 2) scoreboards are turned off, and 3) Entry list is kept concealed, preventing anyone from "position guessing" their way in....sounds like a real blast, if you were racing in the 1950s.

Referencing Travis' post earlier on this thread is a good example...what happens to the other 100 or so cars who were at the race...they get to look through the fence while the one selected get to race for the money.

I do not understand the appeal of Pinks and no one seems to be able to explain it other than saying "to possibly be on TV and race in front of....". NOT

[Troy Henderson]

The Tosto's have it nailed, good work guys. Have it in the spring or fall (cars leave better for the camera) at a centrally located track everyone can get to. We'd be there with three cars.

We thought about running the HPT Pinks race this year but it's between the Denver races.

Marketed correctly it would be a great show. I think everyone underestimates how amazing these cars are from AA to W.